Living in Two Worlds – theme transcribed


March 27, 1972




…”Man does by his nature belong to these two worlds and it is even more in his nature to be a bridge between them. We all know that we have a very precarious foot hold in the other world, but the other is not an inner world in the sense of being nothing but our subjective state. The more one comes to understand it, the more one begins to see it in a totally different way. This other world is the substantial one.”

…”With the themes, one of our objectives is that we should take them into our attention and our concern and test them against our experience, present and past. Without present experience; past experience will not give very much. We really have three distinct factors available here. One is what you understand from your experience in the past. What will happen when you observe and remember about this and look at your own state and see whether there is in reality an awareness of your nature, and then to look at it. You remember one of the very last things, probably, that Gurdjieff wrote before he stopped writing altogether, at the very end of the ‘Inner and Outer World of Man’; “and so man can live in two worlds, or perhaps even in three”. This is the test of it. What is the meaning of this? You understand that “perhaps even in three” is not something I am asking of you.”

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